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The 229 Podcast

The 229 Podcast

Hosted by Bill Russell and Sarah Richardson

Flagship interviews and more from our community—strategy, operations, and what’s next in health IT.

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The Cyber Attack No One Can Survive Alone | Executive Interview with Josh Howell

·Executive Interview

The Cyber Attack No One Can Survive Alone | Executive Interview with Josh Howell

Nurses Week Special on Florence Nightingale and the Future of Nursing | Newsday with Lisbeth Votruba

·Newsday

Nurses Week Special on Florence Nightingale and the Future of Nursing | Newsday with Lisbeth Votruba

Data Liberation, Tech Debt, and the Road to AI-Ready | Executive Interview with Jim Jacobs

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Data Liberation, Tech Debt, and the Road to AI-Ready | Executive Interview with Jim Jacobs

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UnHack the Podcast

UnHack the Podcast

Hosted by Drex DeFord

Cybersecurity and risk in healthcare—threats, defenses, and lessons from the front lines of protecting patients and data.

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The Cyber Attack No One Can Survive Alone | Executive Interview with Josh Howell

·Executive Interview

The Cyber Attack No One Can Survive Alone | Executive Interview with Josh Howell

Nurses Week Special on Florence Nightingale and the Future of Nursing | Newsday with Lisbeth Votruba

·Newsday

Nurses Week Special on Florence Nightingale and the Future of Nursing | Newsday with Lisbeth Votruba

2 Minute Drill: Building an Agentic AI Hacker with Drex DeFord

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2 Minute Drill: Building an Agentic AI Hacker with Drex DeFord

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The Cyber Attack No One Can Survive Alone | Executive Interview with Josh Howell

·Executive Interview

The Cyber Attack No One Can Survive Alone | Executive Interview with Josh Howell

May 5, 2026: What happens when attackers don't just break into your systems, they become you? Josh Howell , Healthcare CTO at Rubrik , joins Drex DeFord to unpack Rubrik's newly announced partnership with the American Hospital Association, a rigorous vetting process that signals a new standard in cyber risk validation. Josh draws on hundreds of ransomware recovery experiences to challenge how health systems think about resilience, recovery sequencing, and the identity control plane. Learn why th

Flourish Rerelease: Healthcare's Shocking Gap in Pain Data with Martha Lawrence

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Flourish Rerelease: Healthcare's Shocking Gap in Pain Data with Martha Lawrence

May 5, 2026: Pain is the number one reason patients access healthcare, yet objective pain data is virtually absent from claims systems and EHRs. Martha Lawrence , CEO and co-founder of AccendoWave , explores how her company is building benchmark databases that correlate brainwave activity with pain perception, addressing both the clinical and financial gaps that leave health systems exposed. They also dig into the changing vendor-to-health-system sales landscape, de-risking innovation adoption,

Nurses Week Special on Florence Nightingale and the Future of Nursing | Newsday with Lisbeth Votruba

·Newsday

Nurses Week Special on Florence Nightingale and the Future of Nursing | Newsday with Lisbeth Votruba

May 4, 2026: Lisbeth Votruba , Chief Clinical Officer at AvaSure , joins Bill Russell and Drex DeFord on Newsday to celebrate Nurses Week with a fascinating look at where nursing has been, and where it's going. From Florence's data-driven legacy to today's AI-powered virtual care, Lisbeth shares why nursing turnover is declining, why certification rates are rising, and why she sees technology not as a threat but as a path back to old-fashioned, human-centered nursing care. Key Points: 02:3

2 Minute Drill: Building an Agentic AI Hacker with Drex DeFord

·2 Minute Drill

2 Minute Drill: Building an Agentic AI Hacker with Drex DeFord

Drex unpacks a signal hiding across several recent stories: we may be deploying AI well ahead of our ability to secure it. From an autonomous AI agent that breached a consulting firm's internal chatbot in two hours, gaining access to 46 million employee messages, to a multi-agent experiment where AI systems escalated privileges, forged credentials, and disabled antivirus software entirely on their own, the pattern is unsettling. Add a publicly available AI prescribing tool in Utah that researche

Flourish Rerelease: From 11 Data Centers to Zero with Healthcare IT Leader Tyler Barhydt

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Flourish Rerelease: From 11 Data Centers to Zero with Healthcare IT Leader Tyler Barhydt

May 1, 2026: In this inaugural episode of Flourish Sound Bytes, Sarah Richardson sits down with Tyler Barhydt , a seasoned technology executive who led a remarkable cloud transformation journey. Tyler shares how his organization, Envision Healthcare , went from 11 data centers to nearly zero, the unexpected benefits of the Broadcom/VMware situation, and why he believes every cloud migration needs a dedicated FinOps team. Through candid discussion about getting board buy-in (spoiler: it took 12-2

What Healthcare Can Learn From a 20 Year Old Hacker | 2 Minute Drill with Drex DeFord

·2 Minute Drill

What Healthcare Can Learn From a 20 Year Old Hacker | 2 Minute Drill with Drex DeFord

Matthew Lane was 14 when he started probing the edges of online gaming systems. By 20, he had walked out of PowerSchool with data on nearly 70 million students and teachers using nothing but a contractor's stolen credentials he found on the dark web. Drex tells the full story and then lands the part that matters most for healthcare: Lane didn't exploit a sophisticated vulnerability. He used a username and password attached to someone who had legitimate access and simply walked through the front

Data Liberation, Tech Debt, and the Road to AI-Ready | Executive Interview with Jim Jacobs

·Executive Interview

Data Liberation, Tech Debt, and the Road to AI-Ready | Executive Interview with Jim Jacobs

April 29, 2026: Bill Russell sits down with Jim Jacobs , President and CEO of MediQuant , to confront one of healthcare's most expensive and underappreciated problems: runaway application complexity. Jim makes the case that software rationalization isn't an IT to-do list item; it's a board-level imperative. With health systems carrying $60 million in unwanted software spend and cyber risks piling up in legacy systems that no one is maintaining, the urgency has never been higher. And with AI dema

UnHack the Podcast: Children's Hospital Code Dark Plan with Laurie Campbell and Rick McIntosh

·UnHack the Podcast

UnHack the Podcast: Children's Hospital Code Dark Plan with Laurie Campbell and Rick McIntosh

April 28, 2026: When a hospital goes dark, the first 72 hours are everything. Laurie Campbell , Senior Manager of Clinical Ancillary Applications and Enterprise Imaging, and Rick McIntosh, VP and the Chief Technology Officer, at Children’s Hospital Colorado , break down the phased Code Dark response framework her team developed for ransomware attacks. They walk through real examples: how the supply chain keeps inventory moving without its systems, and how the radiology team built a sneakernet pr

Flourish Rerelease: Behind Frenemy Lines - Breaking Down Toxic Workplaces with Amber Tichenor

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Flourish Rerelease: Behind Frenemy Lines - Breaking Down Toxic Workplaces with Amber Tichenor

April 28, 2026: Female rivalry in the workplace is more than interpersonal drama — it's a culture problem with real consequences for teams, retention, and patient care. Dr. Amber Tichenor , organizational psychologist and author of “Behind Frenemy Lines”, joins Sarah Richardson to unpack the psychology behind workplace rivalry, why it's especially prevalent in nursing and other high-stakes environments, and what leaders can do to build cultures grounded in psychological safety, allyship, and mut

Healthcare IT Is Drowning in Projects, Here’s Why | Newsday

·Newsday

Healthcare IT Is Drowning in Projects, Here’s Why | Newsday

April 27, 2026: Drex DeFord and Bill Russell are back on Newsday, and fresh off the 229 Summit, they're not pulling punches. Healthcare IT has a demand problem. Too many projects, not enough capacity, and an industry that's chronically bad at saying no. From the 229 Summit's sharpest takeaways to the Salesforce headless CRM announcement, the vl.js hack, and why Bill thinks Claude Code's "genesis key" is about to change everything, this episode covers the stories that matter most right now. If yo

Flourish: Extraordinary Ordinary Women and Finding Your Worth with Mandy Crosby

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Flourish: Extraordinary Ordinary Women and Finding Your Worth with Mandy Crosby

April 21, 2026: What happens when a young mother with no plan, no car, and no housing decides she's done surviving and ready to lead? Lead Consultant and Author of “Extraordinary Ordinary Women,” Mandy Crosby joins host Sarah Richardson to share the unfiltered story behind her journey from medical assistant to healthcare IT executive advisor. From the leader who refused to put her on a do-not-hire list to the moment she raised her hand for Epic training and changed her career forever, Mandy's st

The Most Likely Way Into Your Network Is Still the Door You Forgot to Lock | 2 Minute Drill

·2 Minute Drill

The Most Likely Way Into Your Network Is Still the Door You Forgot to Lock | 2 Minute Drill

While the industry debates frontier AI models and nation-state threats, hospitals are still getting hit by ransomware through the same doors they've always left open. Drex zooms out to what's actually happening on the ground: massive patch cycles creating downstream operational pressure, countries reconsidering their software dependencies, and CISOs quietly doubling down on fundamentals. MFA, identity management, tested backups, network segmentation. The HICP documents are free, the roadmap alre

Flourish Rerelease: Raising the Next Generation of AI Leaders with Kristen and Harper Schmidt

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Flourish Rerelease: Raising the Next Generation of AI Leaders with Kristen and Harper Schmidt

April 24, 2026: In this conversation, healthcare tech entrepreneur Kristen Schmidt and her 11-year-old daughter Harper explore what it means to prepare the next generation for a world shaped by AI. Harper's definition of AI — insightful beyond her years — anchors a candid discussion about the growing gap between AI's rapid advancement and youth readiness. For healthcare IT leaders, the episode raises an urgent question: are we building the right foundation for the leaders who will inherit these

Newsday: What Healthcare Gets Backwards - Building Better Care with Angel Mena

·Newsday

Newsday: What Healthcare Gets Backwards - Building Better Care with Angel Mena

April 20, 2026: What happens when you layer AI onto broken processes without fixing them first? Angel Mena , MD, CMO of Symplr , joins Bill Russell, Drex DeFord, and Sarah Richardson on Newsday to answer that question with the kind of clinical candor only a practicing physician can bring. From ambient documentation to quality metrics to the credentialing chaos hiding inside every health system, this conversation exposes the gap between AI's promise and what healthcare leaders must do to close it

The 229 Podcast: New Host, New Format, Same Mission with Sarah and Bill

·The 229 Podcast

The 229 Podcast: New Host, New Format, Same Mission with Sarah and Bill

April 16, 2026: Something big is changing at This Week Health, and it starts with this episode. Bill Russell sits down with Sarah Richardson to announce that Flourish, the beloved show Sarah has helmed since joining TWH, is joining the 229 Podcast. But this isn't a step back; it's a consolidation of purpose. Bill and Sarah unpack why simplifying to a single channel better serves the healthcare IT community, what listeners can expect going forward, and why the conversations that happened on Flour

Flourish Soundbytes: Surviving a High Risk Pregnancy and Finding Purpose With Ashley Jester

·Flourish

Flourish Soundbytes: Surviving a High Risk Pregnancy and Finding Purpose With Ashley Jester

April 16, 2026: In this personal and powerful episode of Flourish Soundbytes, Sarah Richardson welcomes healthcare leader and author of “Poppy’s Story” Ashley Jester for a conversation that goes far beyond professional achievement. Ashley shares the journey of her pregnancy, one that shifted from joyful expectation to a fight for life. Ashley reflects on how purpose conquered pain, what she wishes the healthcare system had offered her, and how her daughter, nearly three years old and thriving, c

2 Minute Drill: How a 22-Year-Old Took Down the World's Largest Botnet with Drex DeFord

·2 Minute Drill

2 Minute Drill: How a 22-Year-Old Took Down the World's Largest Botnet with Drex DeFord

The Kim Wolf botnet was the most powerful ever built — 2 million compromised IoT devices, a record-breaking 31.4 terabit DDoS attack, and it had the FBI, Google, and Cloudflare stumped. Drex breaks down how those cheap, forgotten devices in patient waiting rooms and break rooms became weapons inside hospital networks, and why 25% of Infoblox's enterprise healthcare clients were already compromised. Then comes the wild part: a 22-year-old RIT undergrad named Benjamin cracked the whole operation —

Newsday: AI, EHRs, and the Fight Health Systems Can't Ignore with Jacob Hansen

·Newsday

Newsday: AI, EHRs, and the Fight Health Systems Can't Ignore with Jacob Hansen

April 13, 2026: Jacob Hansen , Chief Product and Technology Officer at AvaSure , joins Bill, Drex, and Sarah on Newsday for a conversation about the data governance battles quietly reshaping AI. From who owns AI model improvements derived from a health system's environment to whether EHRs should have control over how that data is used, Jacob pulls no punches. The conversation also tackles the evolving CIO title, the future of computer science careers in an AI-driven world, and why nursing may be

2 Minute Drill: AI has now Hacked the Un-hackable with Drex DeFord

·2 Minute Drill

2 Minute Drill: AI has now Hacked the Un-hackable with Drex DeFord

The window between vulnerability discovery and exploitation has collapsed — from 63 days in 2018 to negative. Now AI is changing the game entirely. Drex walks through how Anthropic's unreleased model Mythos autonomously found a critical zero-day in the Ghost CMS, wrote its own exploit, and extracted sensitive credentials in under two hours — all without a CVE ever existing. Add in two accidental Anthropic data leaks in the same week, and the story gets more complicated. For healthcare organizati

Flourish Soundbytes: From Patient to Advocate - Healthcare Needs Your Story with Grace Vinton

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Flourish Soundbytes: From Patient to Advocate - Healthcare Needs Your Story with Grace Vinton

April 9, 2026: What happens when a healthcare communications professional becomes the patient no one listened to? Grace Vinton , Director of Media Relations at Supreme Communications and Host of the “ HITea With Grace ” podcast, joins Sarah Richardson on Flourish Soundbytes. From making the case for patients on innovation panels to arguing that caregivers deserve a seat at the governance table, Grace challenges the industry to move from treating patients as case studies to recognizing them as li