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Let's talk hymns, and Vive is what we're going to talk about today. So let me give you the the stuff you want to know. It was well attended. I think it's a valuable conference. I think it will be around for a long time. So those, I've heard people say, oh, hymns is going away. HIMS may have lost its certain place in the conference season. But it's not going away.

It's a valuable conference. There was 1100 booths there or boosts. That would be an understatement, but there's 1100 people on the showroom floor. There was pre conferences and I thought the pre conferences were extremely well done. You had AI, you had interoperability. You had cybersecurity, you had the nurses got together.

CNIO. Got together. Trying to think which other ones I'm missing. Anyway, there was there's three or four others that got together on that day. And they were pretty good. Like I stopped in at a bunch of them. Listen to one or two. Oh, there was an executive forum. I listened to a bunch of the discussions and conversations and I thought they were relevant and good conversations.

I thought there was good panels. In those. Discussions. Again I get down on the carnival and, or the boat show, whatever you want to call it. But at the end of the day, there's value in each. Those, the pre-conference on Monday was extremely valuable and I think the, uh, there's value in your cybersecurity leader being in that cybersecurity forum room there's value in your interoperability, people being in that room to hear from. Sequoia project to hear from HHS to hear from others. That's a good room to be in.

They can walk up and ask questions directly to Micky Tripathi and others. This is a, again, it's a good room to be in. For them, the executive forum was good. I got to see a bunch of you at that. Forum and talked to you. And so that was extremely extremely helpful. The AI one was futures, as you would imagine, there was also some cautionary tales and there was also some warnings and also some of the promise that's available.

The one session I did sit in. On that. I think my takeaway was your doctors and nurses are already using it. So you better get in front of it. This is the old cloud computing argument, which is if you don't get in front of it, That's on you because it's going to be used and it is being used.

So that was interesting. So the pre conferences extremely well done. And really appreciated those sessions and then the the F the showroom floor opens. Do you have your keynote and you have your other things that are going on? I did a bunch of interviews on that first day, so I didn't get to go to any of the. Any of the keynotes or sessions and I'm sure. They were good. Again, one of the differences between hymns and five is five keeps tries to keep everything on the floor.

Whereas hams, you have these breakout sessions. So you get off of the, you get out of the, a carnival and you go into a room and you get to hear people share. What's working in their system. What's not working. I find those sessions to be good. Because it's how some leaders bringing their success stories to you. Or their challenges to you so that you can have ongoing discussions around them. So I find those sessions to be good.

Hymns is strong because the hymns local chapters are fairly fairly strong still. And so that's a feeder for this conference. I don't know that the numbers I'm sure they'll announce like 30,000. It could have been, it could have been 30,000. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say it. Wasn't it felt more like 20,000 to me, but still 20,000. There's a lot of people.

It's a major conference. Um, again, I think every healthcare leader needs to have a conference strategy because there's value to be had out of each conference. Think about who's there and what the value is. Again, my strategy was always to utilize it. As an efficiency play to meet as many of my partners as I possibly could.

Because again, I think it's true that there was a lot of executives from the partners. There's a lot of product managers and owners, system engineers. There's a lot of technical support there as well as your salespeople. And a lot of cases are there. And so you can go into one room, have a good conversation, get everybody on the same page. And you can do that 10 times in one day and get out of there.

And, I know cause a bunch of you have said to me, oh, I don't need to do that. They'll come to me. Yeah, but that's spread out over time. It takes, it breaks your flow of what you're trying to do at the health system. While you're visiting with partners. I like to get that all out of the way in the spring. And then you could do it again in the fall.

Depending on what conference you go at that point. So. Let's talk about what was the discussion while the everything was drowned out by AI. Eh, at five, everything was drowned out by change healthcare at this conference, everything was drowned out by AI. By the way, if change healthcare hadn't happened, I'm sure we would have been drowned out by AI at the five conference. But you had all sorts of announcements about AI at this conference, you had Oracle, Google. You had different health systems making announcements, you had HCA and what they're doing with the Google's thing, you had a Google's a search Google search within Meditech.

I, it has a name, but I'm not sure what the exact name is. We did an interview while we were at the conferences. It's really effective. It's really interesting. Stanford healthcare talked about Dax, copilot. Being rolled out system-wide I think this is a major step forward. We used to stop with the with the ambient clinical listening, because we could not afford to roll it out everywhere.

And it wasn't just the well-to-do health systems. It was all health systems. They would roll it out to a select number of physicians. And then they would say, you know what, that's enough because it was based on an old model and it was very expensive to scale. Now it's based on a new model. It's generative. AI in the background, it is technology in the background.

So it is more accessible to more health systems that it's more accessible to more clinicians. So I'm excited. I'm excited to see how far this goes. I'm hopeful that the next time I see my physician, that they are using ambient clinical listening. That's C and by the way, I'm hitting the Becker's healthcare article to see what topics they thought. Change healthcare clearly was still a significant discussion, especially in the cybersecurity forum.

And it will continue to be, I did talk to some of you and. One of the questions I'm asking is what's your fallback? What are you doing? With regard to change healthcare. A lot of people have leaned on epic and epic has come up with ways to get around it and helped. Implement relay health and other things for health systems relays.

The big winner in this, if there is a winner in this. Because they've either become the defacto backup for change healthcare, or quite frankly, they may be replacing change healthcare. Moving forward. We'll see. How this whole thing plays out. Trying to think what else was a top of mind? What else were. People talking about, I mean that I can't. Emphasize enough, how much AI is being talked about.

It's why I did the show. I did yesterday. On defining AI. I think we have a lot of people throwing it out. And we need that framework. We need to understand what falls into computer vision. False into NLP. What falls into machine learning? What falls into generative AI. We need to understand the different frameworks that are being brought to bear. Because each one's a little different. In how you look at it and how you think about it, how you licensed for it. Just like in the cloud computing world infrastructure as a service software, as a service platform, as a service or different models and you contract for them differently. And you utilize them differently within your health system.

And so that's why. I think it's going to be important really quickly here for us to get a framework for discussion. That allows us to put things into categories and understand how they are going to be applied. I did think it was interesting as I talked to a number of people about the inbox work around generative AI. That there's a lot of there's a lot of caution around it.

It's moving very slowly. The adoption rate is very slow, so that was one of the use cases that people were putting out there as a potential on the clinical side. I still think it has a lot of potential. I still think it needs some work and we will keep an eye on that and keep talking to you. You all about that and how that's going for you.

But there there, there's just a fair amount of caution and skepticism. Around it. And we will, we'll see how it progresses. I think again, What we're doing with gender AI today, and what we will be doing a year from now will be night. Night and day it would be completely different. And so we will see how that plays out. Last thing on this HIMS is not going away.

I heard some CIS telling me, HIMS is irrelevant and HIMS is going away. Um, conference of 20,000. 20,000 people, ish does not just go away. And so determine where it fits, determine what value at all offers. It brings. You may or may not want to be there. You may or may not have to choose between different conferences that you send people to. You may or may not go yourself, but choose to send others because there's value in this conference to be had. And I don't know.

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