Quotes from Day 1 of the HLTH Conference
Karen DeSalvo MD - Chief Health Officer Google
responding to the question, Do you feel any pressure at Google to build this (Google Health) into a business.
"No we don't"
"Our raison d'être is better health and quality of life around the world."
"This company understands that we have a lot to do to improve medical care, but health is a lot more than that."
Hemant Taneja - General Catalyst
"We talk about disrupting industry with tech, but people don't want their care disrupted."
Talking about the impact of the pandemic on planning.
"Everything we thought we were going to do over 10 years will happen in the next 4 years."
Alan Lotvin, M.D. - President, CVS Caremark
Responding to the question about Amazon entering the PBM space.
"One underestimates Amazon to ones own peril."
Paraphrasing the rest.
PBMs are being pushed into transparency by their clients. We are going to make money, but we are going to show you how and why. Amazon will make progress because they take a long view, but will they break into the big leagues? Hard barrier to break. Scale matters. Scale takes time.
Stay tuned for more as the week progresses.
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Bill Russell:here's what I've decided to do this week.
Bill Russell:I'm going to do a daily diary from the conference.
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Bill Russell:Today I got here around three o'clock in the afternoon.
Bill Russell:The safety procedures are the first thing that you experienced at the conference.
Bill Russell:Health teamed up with clear that the company that does the airport
Bill Russell:fast pass kind of thing, and impact health to provide the tech user
Bill Russell:experience process and the testing.
Bill Russell:And I will say I was fairly impressed.
Bill Russell:They processed some:Bill Russell:minutes long and the test took about 20.
Bill Russell:And I understand that that's 40 minutes, but think about it a hundred percent
Bill Russell:vaccinated and a hundred percent tested.
Bill Russell:It's hard to not feel safe in that environment.
Bill Russell:It makes me feel like wearing a mask might be a little bit of overkill,
Bill Russell:but those are the rules in the state of Massachusetts, regardless of if
Bill Russell:you've created a safe space or not.
Bill Russell:So that is what's going on.
Bill Russell:So we have a hundred percent vaccinated, a hundred percent
Bill Russell:tested, and everyone is wearing.
Bill Russell:The first thing to note is that this conference is a digital
Bill Russell:health innovation conference.
Bill Russell:Most of you, my listeners are not here.
Bill Russell:Investors are here.
Bill Russell:Life sciences is here.
Bill Russell:Pharma is here.
Bill Russell:And any health tech company that is looking for investors in the
Bill Russell:next five years is in the building.
Bill Russell:Don't get me wrong.
Bill Russell:Healthcare companies will be represented, but mostly by those who are making
Bill Russell:the deals on behalf of their health.
Bill Russell:Th the conference we'll have roughly 6,000 people according to their marketing.
Bill Russell:I don't know if that is going to be a combination of digital and onsite,
Bill Russell:but as I said earlier, about:Bill Russell:So the conference feels like it's filling up pretty well.
Bill Russell:I sat in on a couple of the main stage discussions and it's important to
Bill Russell:note that they are not presentations.
Bill Russell:They are discussions.
Bill Russell:Everyone had a partner to bounce the questions off of
Bill Russell:after the opening remarks.
Bill Russell:So following the opening montage of statistics, which was a very
Bill Russell:interesting video worth taking a look at, if you can get your hands on it
Bill Russell:and an opening, , let's say one minute light show in anticipation of the
Bill Russell:start, Jonathan Weiner, the founder and CEO of health got up there and.
Bill Russell:Uh, I acknowledged the contributions of healthcare as
Bill Russell:a community and thanked them.
Bill Russell:He then ran through a couple of stats.
Bill Russell:, 5 million people have died from COVID around the world.
Bill Russell:And one in five have died from COVID in the U S and those are startling numbers
Bill Russell:to be sure he challenged leaders.
Bill Russell:He gave a couple of things.
Bill Russell:I'm not going to give you his whole speech here, but he said, leaders will need to
Bill Russell:become more comfortable talking about.
Bill Russell:And it was due to some of the statistics that he talked about
Bill Russell:that this really has impacted , the minority communities much more so than
Bill Russell:the, , fluent and white communities.
Bill Russell:He said, there's also this, this mistrust of healthcare that needs to be overcome.
Bill Russell:And he would like to see us focus on the root cause.
Bill Russell:And finally, he finished up by talking about defeating, missing information.
Bill Russell:He said one in five, Vaccine is a carrier for a microchip.
Bill Russell:I don't know about that stat that I would love to see where that comes from.
Bill Russell:I I've yet to talk to anyone now.
Bill Russell:That's not true.
Bill Russell:I've talked to one person who believes that this is a bill gates kind of
Bill Russell:microchip kind of thing, but, and I've talked to an awful lot of people.
Bill Russell:So I can, I find that hard to believe.
Bill Russell:I feel feels like the kind of thing that is an urban level.
Bill Russell:But his point of defeating misinformation is, well-made
Bill Russell:The first two to take the stage where Dr.
Bill Russell:Allen Levin, who is an EVP president for CVS Caremark and Chrissy Farr formerly
Bill Russell:with NBC now with OMERS ventures.
Bill Russell:And they had a discussion really around medications, cost of
Bill Russell:medications after they got through some preliminary conversations from.
Bill Russell:And she asked him, what can be done about the cost of that medication?
Bill Russell:And he talks about the things that they do at CVS for their employees.
Bill Russell:And he said, we use a formulary that is a very highly generic.
Bill Russell:He talks about the first thing you have to do is drive generics.
Bill Russell:And he gave some use cases where generics generally, when they become
Bill Russell:generics, the use of those drugs.
Bill Russell:Precipitously and they should, there's still a very effective drugs
Bill Russell:in the treatment of these diseases.
Bill Russell:So he says, drive generics, number one, number two is drive competition.
Bill Russell:And he talks about the fact that when drugs get about seven or eight options
Bill Russell:or competitors, that they see the price drop very rapidly, very significantly.
Bill Russell:So he obviously is a person who believes in the free market.
Bill Russell:He goes on to talk about reference price.
Bill Russell:And, the fact that you could set the reference pricing based on category or
Bill Russell:base it on the U S versus international.
Bill Russell:But he said the challenge is that he believes we're on the edge of
Bill Russell:a major advancement in the cost of development of new drugs.
Bill Russell:And if we go after setting, the reference pricing, we may set it above what the
Bill Russell:market actually sets the price at.
Bill Russell:I have no idea if that's actually true, but it is an interesting.
Bill Russell:Uh, against reference pricing and I'll have to look into
Bill Russell:that a little bit further.
Bill Russell:He was asked about the threat of a player like Amazon, and he opened
Bill Russell:with the phrase, which I think there's a lot of wisdom in one
Bill Russell:underestimates Amazon at its own peril.
Bill Russell:And that's good to hear from him.
Bill Russell:He talks about the fact though that PBMs are pretty well established.
Bill Russell:I mean, there's only a handful of them.
Bill Russell:Well, there's a handful of the major.
Bill Russell:And they have scale.
Bill Russell:And he talks about the fact that scale matters and scale takes time.
Bill Russell:He talks about the fact that people are comfortable with the
Bill Russell:PBMs that they require visibility.
Bill Russell:PBMs have been pushed into visibility by their clients.
Bill Russell:So the clients know that they're making money, but they know exactly how much
Bill Russell:in how and why they're making the money.
Bill Russell:So he said, there's a big barrier for them to.
Bill Russell:But they have a long time horizon.
Bill Russell:They have a fair amount of money and they have a lot of ingenuity.
Bill Russell:And so clearly they are someone to keep an eye on the next two that came onto the
Bill Russell:stage where Ken Frazier with Merck and Heymont Tonasia with general catalyst.
Bill Russell:They had a very interesting back and forth.
Bill Russell:They talked a fair amount about how health equities, and then
Bill Russell:they turned the conversation to.
Bill Russell:innovation in what they're doing in that space.
Bill Russell:In:Bill Russell:He sent in:Bill Russell:the next decade, we want to make a difference in the healthcare space.
Bill Russell:And they said, , we want to think intentionally about a
Bill Russell:set of companies that can be built to address the challenges.
Bill Russell:And he said everything that we thought we were going to do over 10 years, well,
Bill Russell:probably happen over the next four years.
Bill Russell:And that is due to the COVID accelerate.
Bill Russell:That they have experienced.
Bill Russell:He went on to say a couple of interesting things.
Bill Russell:He said, we talked about disrupting industry with tech, but people
Bill Russell:don't want their care disrupted.
Bill Russell:People want to trust their care provider.
Bill Russell:So that's an interesting snippet right there in and of itself.
Bill Russell:He talked about this idea of building health.
Bill Russell:And this concept of intentionally partnering to build out companies that
Bill Russell:make health care, proactive that reduce the health burden on GDP and make
Bill Russell:care accessible and affordable to all.
Bill Russell:So that's the framework they're looking at to really build out these companies and
Bill Russell:to build out these partnerships really.
Bill Russell:So he drove home the.
Bill Russell:That it's not one company that is going to be doing this, but it's
Bill Russell:going to be companies in concert that are going to be doing this.
Bill Russell:And he left us with this.
Bill Russell:How do we do this transformation without causing disruption?
Bill Russell:We were building companies that can drive out jobs, but we are
Bill Russell:missing an elderly care workforce and a mental health workforce.
Bill Russell:And what he sees is and movement of people around healthcare.
Bill Russell:Address those areas that are underserved today with areas that can be replaced
Bill Russell:with potentially technology process and some other things in the future.
Bill Russell:The last session that I sat through was Dr.
Bill Russell:Karen DeSalvo chief health officer for Google health and Lydia Ramsey
Bill Russell:freelancer with business insider.
Bill Russell:She's the healthcare editor.
Bill Russell:And I love the fact that lydia just asked the question, why the
Bill Russell:reorg what's going on at Google.
Bill Russell:And I love the answer because it gives us a little more insight into what is going
Bill Russell:on at Google and how they think at Google.
Bill Russell:So here's some of the things that Karen DeSalvo had to say, this
Bill Russell:company understands that we have a lot to do to improve medical care,
Bill Russell:but health is a lot more than that.
Bill Russell:So health not healthcare.
Bill Russell:And she says
Bill Russell:the reason for being is to develop better health and quality of life around the
Bill Russell:world, the strategy, all assets of the company, how can we impact millions
Bill Russell:around the world in an equitable way, high quality information to navigate their
Bill Russell:health journey and to personalize it.
Bill Russell:And she talks about the scale of Google and we all know
Bill Russell:there's 600 billion in pre.
Bill Russell:Of our health information since the start of the pandemic care studio and
Bill Russell:AI for healthcare and awareness and context for public health information.
Bill Russell:When asked, do you feel pressured to build this into a business?
Bill Russell:She said, no, we don't.
Bill Russell:That phrase in and of itself is really interesting to me.
Bill Russell:And I don't doubt that that is true.
Bill Russell:And I think Google will figure out how to monetize it later, but they're
Bill Russell:really about the information business gathering information, organizing that
Bill Russell:information, and they will figure it out.
Bill Russell:But that is the world that they live in and they want to
Bill Russell:be preeminent in that space.
Bill Russell:And so for now they're comfortable just saying, Hey, figure out how
Bill Russell:we can build better health in an equitable way around the world.
Bill Russell:And that's how they're thinking.
Bill Russell:I have a lot more questions, I'll let you piece those things together to.
Bill Russell:Think about what the world of Google really looks like, but perhaps in
Bill Russell:the future, we can sit down with Dr.
Bill Russell:DeSalvo and have a deeper conversation on it, because I don't know about
Bill Russell:you, but I have more questions about where Google wants to go with this.
Bill Russell:And what kind of partnerships are they looking for?
Bill Russell:How are they going to partner with healthcare delivery organizations?
Bill Russell:What are they doing around the care experience and care gaps
Bill Russell:and those kinds of things?
Bill Russell:I don't expect them to do that.
Bill Russell:But I'm wondering what the conversations look like behind the four walls.
Bill Russell:Those are my thoughts.
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